we basically have no alternative but to 'pour cement around them' (keeping an old Mac going for as long as we can to support these drawings). Now that classic is toast going forward because of the shift to intel. We come up with totally unreasonable costs for converting (and checking!) these drawings to anything else. We have a LOT of engineering drawings in Claris CAD for instrument systems which are still in service, and some for instruments which are still being built. you end up recreating the drawing nearly from scratch in any other engineering drawing environment after an 'export.' And claris cad's dxf export is absolutely totally garbage. What is _really_ unacceptable IMO is that Apple- doesn'tWorks is such a POS, and it doesn't import MacDrawII stuff correctly, and that 'Maclink+' was such a POS.ĬlarisCAD stored all sorts of internal information about geometry and about dimensioning/titling in non-standard ways for which there are no export support. What I don't understand is why other programs of the MacDraw vintage often don't work any more, while it still does. You can't expect a person like that to change to a new program in the short time that OS X has been out. I have been using MacDraw since it first came out, back in the days when the LaserWriter driver wouldn't position the graphics the same way that the ImageWriter driver would. Have you? Both claim that they will open MacDraw files, but my experience is that even MacDraw's successor, ClarisDraw, wouldn't open MacDraw Pro files perfectly. There's also EazyDraw, but I haven't tried it or Intaglio. Crap, between this thread and the OS X is 5 years old thread I feel old. Games: yea, just about all of them mentioned. Apple has some nice apps now, but man these were so useful for about 99% of the audience out there. No html, but it was a bit early for that (plus I think it didn't support it for a purest point of view, also). It is no ACAD, but it doesn't try to be either.

Claris Cad is still about the perfect blend of good cad features and ease of use. ++ on Framemaker and Claris Cad, and just about any other Claris software. and invariably leaves you with a mess to clean up? the translator which is supposed to translate all this stuff.

the export tools suck and then many of the things you could export to are abandonware too.Įxport to any of several generic CAD formats produces weird garbage and loss of information which takes a ton of work to clean up and always leaves you worried about what you missed. That's all Abandoned-by-Apple-ware.Ĭlaris CAD files are devilishly difficult and time consuming to do anything with. Yep, Framemaker and PageMaker are biggies.

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